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Oh what? I hadn’t heard, thanks!

Another one that often gets overlooked is Bartender, from 2006.

I think you’re barking up the right tree, but the way I’d put it is this: it gives people the ability to imitate an aesthetic without ever engaging with the thinking that underlies that aesthetic. It’s almost inherently anti intellectual, in that way.

Ghibli’s art comes from a profound love for liveliness, wonder, nature, and beauty that also respects the pain endured by its subjects. People talk shit on Ghibli as “the Disney of anime” but it’s a backhanded compliment at worst because I think they’re obliquely referring to how well Miyazaki executes on those feelings.

Unspecified value judgment acknowledged, have a great day

I’m not ideologically opposed to genAI, it’s just that the people who own these tools don’t view them the way you do. They want to get rid of all paid work, and not in a Star Trekky “fully automated luxury gay space communism” way like we’d all prefer. They want infinite wealth and power concentrated to as great a degree as possible. Confining the discussion to mere art is fully insane, and I stand with Miyazaki.

To equivocate yet more, I have enjoyed some genAI content (doopiiidoo on YouTube is doing really unique stuff with it) but the other point I really need to drive home here is that no matter how good our tools get, nothing is ever going to beat hard work - at least when it comes to art.

I’m willing to cede that this tool is of some use as part of a toolkit, but this is like saying Volkswagens from the 40’s were pretty fun to drive. Yes, but…

That’ll do. I’ll take this L but I’m still with Miyazaki on this one. Art opinions on Lemmy always getting me into trouble.

Well, there’s a word for art that was made by someone using tools: art.

This has mainly not been what people use it for, and far more importantly such people aren’t even the target market. It’s exceedingly poor form to pretend otherwise.

I owe you a non-joke answer. It’s not just a matter of personal taste here. Art is fundamentally the study of choice. A product that entails no actual choices is not art, even if you have a salable product that happens to be pretty. All genAI lacks the underlying meanings that evoke thought.

I’m feeling safe unless you got any artists who managed not to fuck Elon Musk

I’ll take that L if you find me one professional artist who uses genAI and not ironically.

It’s striking isn’t it how the debate around generative AI is essentially drawn along the line that separates good taste from bad. To win the debate we’re going to need really good art.

Nose in, snort deep

Failure of imagination really. A newly established status quo always has its ghosts to reckon with, and its detractors.

Lots of good stuff in this thread already, will suggest Black Magic M-66 and Megalobox.

I miss the 80s/90s handmade look. The new school of CGI (Spiderverse, Last Wish, TMNT) are an improvement and good in their own right, but they don’t scratch my itch for handmade animation.

Sometimes an elaborate story with punchy animation is just that. And that’s no bad thing.