To be fair with the above, even considering that he’s being disingenuous*, his [AFAIK incorrect] claim is not “anime is child porn”, it’s “that anime instance has child porn”.

*note how he’s trying to transform “is this CSAM?” into a subjective matter. That’s rather close to the moving goalposts fallacy.

Even in this thread there’s discussion of a show that blatantly tittilates the audience with underage characters that would absolutely qualify as csam in any other community except in the anime community, for some reason.

Emphasis mine. If what you are saying is indeed correct (is it? dunno), this is a sign that the acronym “CSAM” was completely derailed.

Originally the expression “child sexual abuse material” was coined to avoid implications of consent brought by the word “pornography”, and it boils down to “evidence of child sexual abuse”. Consent and sexual abuse are legal notions that only apply to real people, not to fictional characters.

In the meantime, at worst the instance in question depicts images of clearly fictional characters in suggestive poses and/or clothing. It does not classify even as pornography, let alone sexual abuse. (Note that not even hentai depicting clearly adult characters is allowed in that instance.)

I don’t care about what the maintainers’ view of the matter is, I make (and sometimes delete) my comments based on my own view of it.

Given that this is a touchy subject, I think that this matter is better handled neither by the maintainers’ views nor by our own views, but by 1) legal definitions of governments that might be relevant in the matter, and 2) explicit moral premises.

Yeah, but the admins, as the thread has shown, are mainly reining in violations of sitewide policy. Instance rules are mainly the job of mods.

So the admins are reining in violations of lemmy.ml-wide policy… while lemmy.ml rules are mainly the job of the mods??? Congratulations, that’s the dumbest thing that I’ve read today.

Couple the above with the backpedalling (from “This is what mods are for.” to “Instance rules are mainly the job of mods.”; emphasis on “mainly”) - a sleight of hand, while lying that I was the one using a sleight of hand - and I’m led to the conclusion that you have nothing meaningful to add to this discussion, and can be safely ignored as dead weight and noise.

Unlike the above, does anyone here have any decent counter-argument against “migrating this comm to that other instance would be sensible”?

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Not just the mods. Admins can (and should) also moderate content in their instances, specially when it comes to the global rules. And it’s clear that lemmy.ml admins want to do so, otherwise this thread wouldn’t exist on first place.

Sorry for the double reply. Here’s a practical idea: what if the mods of this comm contacted lemmy.ml’s admins? Ideally doing two things:

1. Clarifying that the instance in question does not have child sexual abuse material, and requesting users to be allowed to link it.
2. Expressing desire to migrate [email protected] to the instance in question, and highlighting that this is convenient for both sides of the matter.

Among the admins I think that Nutomic would be the best to contact, given the github thread.

You’re talking about your thread about Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete, right? It’s still in the modlog for me, even in private mode. I don’t think that they removed the entry.

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In my opinion, the migration is sensible because:

1. You need to know a topic decently enough to be able to moderate a community about it. And yet it’s unreasonable to expect the admins of lemmy.ml - a community about free/open source and privacy - to know about anime.
2. There’s no inherent reason why this comm is the largest anime comm in Lemmy. It’s simply that this comm is three years old, from a time when “Lemmy” was mostly just lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml, there was no other place in Lemmy to discuss anime.
3. Lemmy as a whole benefits from redirecting traffic from larger instances to smaller ones. Specially instances unrelated to politics and tech. In fact, lemmy.ml’s admins asked users to use other instances not too long ago.

For me it says “admins”. I don’t know if it’s because I’m a mod of a few other lemmy.ml comms, or if it’s because of the different backend versions (SJW uses 0.18.5, lemmy.ml uses 0.19.1).

For context, I encourage people to check this discussion in the “join Lemmy” site github. Have in mind that both of the Lemmy developers in that discussion are also admins of the lemmy.ml instance, and they clearly disagree if the instance in question should be considered as “hosting CSAM” or not.

I think that this community should migrate, but for a different reason: topic.

The topic of lemmy.ml is privacy and free-as-freedom software. Most other content here is off-topic, including anime. It was fine when it was just lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml, as you’d have no other place to discuss anime in Lemmy, but now the situation is different.

And ideally, communities should be managed/moderated/administered by people who know well the topic of the community.

Agree. No 180°, she’s still the same selfish princess, even if a bit smarter than before.

Overall I liked the episode quite a bit. One of the charms of the series for me is how small conflicts are woven into a bigger narrative. Sure, it’s just a ball dress for a provincial noble, but now Mia got one less barrier between herself and a happy ending. (There are further implications later on, but I’m not spoiling it.)

And while Mia was 90% lucky, this episode shows the other 10%: in the earlier loop, she didn’t have the chance to make her few skills (ball dancing for example) work in her favour. Or the fact that she actually considered the PoV of the four nobles, instead of ideologically dismissing it.

It’s satisfying to see a villainess who doesn’t pull her punches, like this.

For me the painful part is to not babble manga spoilers in this sort of discussion. Like, I know what’s going to happen and I’m excited to talk about it, but… got to wait until the right episode to do so!

That’s a good analogy - specially because LLMs don’t handle language on a conceptual level, like we do; only the surface, like taxidermy. Demons work a bit different in this aspect because they show cognitive comprehension of what is said, but Frieren herself highlights that they’re just mimicking human behaviour.

Episodes like this are why I love this series so much.

Graf acting as a reasonable person in power. Stark being afraid, but still willing to fight. Stark and Fern planning shit out. Fern inheriting her fighting style from Frieren. Flamme protecting a sapling on a whim. All of that so well tied together, in a simple good vs. evil struggle.

I’ve seen weirder premises. And weirder cover arts - picture related:

Still, I like Tearmoon due to the comedy, it’s fun without cringe.

Mia’s interactions with Anne took the spotlight for me, again. It’s perhaps one of the few not [completely] motivated by Mia’s self-interest, but also gratefulness.

Gotta laugh at her meeting Tiona, Sion and Rafina again in this loop. Oh, you want to avoid them? Too bad~